Friday, March 29, 2019

Seeking God's Face

Hi there Gracefilled Lillies,

Today I would just like to share a post with you about seeking God's Face. 

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As I am playing catch-up on all my writing and blogs lately and starting new journeys with it, I feel like I am always growing closer to living out God's purpose for my life more and more, when I write.

Today's topic is seeking God's Face. Last year when I stepped out with Gracelilly, I knew that it was something I really wanted to do and felt equipped to do. I shared a couple of online Bible studies, created some artwork and digital kits en wrote a couple of devotionals. It gave me such joy to be able to bring my teaching skills, love of art and creativity and my biggest love, God and His Word together in one place. My heart with it, as is also God's heart, is to reach others with the love of Christ. 

But then a couple of things happened that halted the whole process and I was forced to really look at what I was doing and how I was doing it and where and for whom I was doing it. A couple of things needed to happen first before I could move forward into the "ministry" I so desired. One of the things that happened was that my laptop's hard drive crashed. I was working my little laptop so hard that something happened that never happened to me before. I use to have good housekeeping habits for keeping my tech safe and secure, but I was working so hard that God needed to physically stop me by shutting down my computer to get me to slow down. He protected me and turned everything around and I really didn't lose much else than the use of my computer for a while and the discomfort of the disruption. But I knew God was saying: "Stop, I want to do something here". I took me a while to realize what that was and it took me the year to really see the picture. I am still in need of some adjustments here and there, but I know He is faithful to guide me trough. 

Before I could move forward, I needed to look back, regroup, rest and really listen. It was a hard year emotionally and spiritually. It took me a whole year to really get back on track with Gracelilly and I feel that all the things that happened were necessary for me to see things from God's perspective. I made big changes to our business and how we run things and I have such peace about it. :) It was a scary thing to trust God when what He was asking me to do looked like He was shutting us down, but He wasn't. 

So without going into too much detail, the bottom line is that we sometimes need to let go, fast from the things that occupy us so much, even the good things like our art, our work and just get back to basics. A big thing for me now is to sort through all my creative ideas and wait on God. Wait for Him to show me the green light on the ones He wants me to follow through on. I have to work on waiting on God for His timing. I will always have to work on this and I think we all do all the time. Oh, man can I be impatient. I know that my lesson through this past year was to take note of the things that are more important to God in comparison to what is important to me. He is interested in how my heart is doing. He is interested in how things of the past affect my present responses or actions. He is interested in restoring what the enemy has stolen, revealing the enemy's lies in our lives and in loving us to wholeness. None of us can really say that we are perfectly complete, whole or untouched by this life, can we? So all of us do need His healing hand to guide us to that place of rest and restoration. 

My word for this year is RESTORE. I need God to restore my broken places, to restore what the enemy has stolen over time through his lies and deceit. For me to have balance in my life in all the things that are important, I need to seek God's Face. 

How do we do that? Seek His Face? What does that mean practically speaking? I am a visual person. I am also a very tactile person. I learn through actively being involved in the learning process. You call that being a kinesthetic learner. learning style in which learning takes place by the students carrying out physical activities, rather than listening to a lecture or watching demonstrations.  

Most artists and creatives are kinesthetic learners I presume. We would rather touch and feel and smell and physically try things out than to just listen to someone talk about it. So Bible Journaling has always been something I did naturally. I remember sitting at Christian Students Association Camp in Winkelspruit at age 17 doodling and making notes while the Preacher was teaching us about God's Word. We had daily devotional meetings where over 250 students would sit in a large assembly listening to the sermon. I had my notebook as it was also encouraged to bring your Bible, notebook and a pen to camp and I was writing stuff down and doodling in the margin. Most of my note taking over the years involved writing my prayers down, Scripture writing and sermon notes. That is how I learn. I cannot sit and do nothing in church. My mind wanders and I lose focus. I am a big daydreamer. Al my creative ideas come from is a powerful thing and it needs to be harnessed. Making notes and writing helps to accomplish that order in the brain. So my point is that seeking God's Face can also be an active thing. Sitting down with your Bible and your notebook and involving God in what you write down. It is a partnership for me. Me and God in my quiet time. Writing this post is a partnership with Him. I am the vessel and He breathes through me onto the pages that I write. When anything of importance comes out, you can know that He takes all the credit for that. 

When we make choices in how we want to live and what we want to do with our lives, it is important to involve God in those choices. He is the One who made you. He knows why He made you and what His purpose with your life is. 

When you give your life to God, as I did when I was just 15, something marvelous happens. He really comes to live in you and with you. He makes your heart His home. That is such an awesome thought. While we all have challenges in life and hang-ups and things happen to us, it may cause us to lose our focus or to sway from the path He would want us on. I constantly have to check back and make sure that I am still on that path and the wonderful thing is that His Spirit will always lead you back home to Him. 

My story isn't finished. I know that He is definitely guiding me somewhere awesome even though I cannot see the full picture yet. I know I can trust Him to lead me there.

Sometimes, when I feel discontent in my heart and I process what I am feeling by really quieting down, slowing things way down in my life, He is always faithful and works in me to show me what it is that I am feeling or what it is that is causing the discontent. Discontent in itself is not a bad or negative thing. It may just be God's Spirit re-directing you or re-aligning you with what He wants you to do or where He wants you to go in a specific moment in time. Be ready and willing for Him to lead you away from what you are doing or planning to do, for what He may ask of you, that interruption in your schedule may just be way more important than what you had planned. 

Sometimes feeling that discontent is fear holding me back. Then He will encourage me to stand in faith and trust Him to help me be more courageous. Sometimes I process conflicts of the past and He will show me why I went through uncomfortable experiences and who was to blame or why I need to have grace for myself and the other person. He helps me understand and process things correctly according to His truth and not necessarily my own or other people's.  Sometimes He leads me to understanding just by whispering into my spirit a truth about me or about Him or about a past hurt and it is just over and done at that moment because His truth sets people free. It is something very profound that happens so quietly without any real big event or moment but you know that you know He spoke to you. You also know that from that moment onward you will not be the same again. I have had a couple of these moments throughout my life and I treasure them. 

I remember when working in Saudi Arabia a couple years back, one day I was standing in front of my cupboard and I had to decide which clothes to pack for another weekend in Riyadh, the capital city. We were working in a desert village that looked like the surface of the moon, isolated and very dusty. We were paid very well, but while working there we realized was really a very harsh environment to a large extent and a big culture shock for most expats. It was part of our remuneration package to receive a sponsored night in the city at an expat compound much like a holiday resort but with walls and security and barbed wire. It was our sanity break to go to the city.  I will always remember very clearly the Voice I heard audibly in my spirit that specific day: "If you stay here, you will lose your soul".  We had a two-year contract, but we only stayed for 6 months due to our company not being able to secure long term visas and the stress of the situation and a lot of other factors showed us that God wanted us from the start to only stay half a year and then come back home. Someday I will share the whole story, but for now, this moment was important. God speaks to us at times very clearly. My main reason for not returning to a country where I really felt I could make a difference in the lives of my beautiful students, was that Voice on that day in front of my open closet. It was a "no" from God. It was a "go home". It wasn't an easy choice to make. It had very big financial and circumstantial repercussions for me and my husband for the long term. It was God saying: "Will you trust Me no matter what?" and boy, has it been a really difficult difficult journey. I have never in my spiritual life experienced such a difficult season as the one God has been asking me to go through the past decade, but this one choice I needed to make would affect my comfort and my future security. God was saying "I am your Source and you need to trust me that I will provide for you and look after you" and He has. 

Seeking His Face in the moments when you land in hospital with a scary diagnosis, or family abandons you, or the one you love is in turmoil, or you see your elderly parents grow old and frail and sick, or friends desert you, industry reject you, fellow Christians attack, persecute or discredit you, and your fridge is empty, your dreams fade in the distance, your dreams to have babies of your own grow dim as you celebrate yet another childless birthday and years grow into decades, then seeking His Face becomes an absolute necessity. When you experience that harshness of life and years turn into decades and your fig-tree still doesn't bear fruit, then it starts to really matter what you believe and how you live that faith. Being honest and open with God in your darkest times, when you really don't get what it's about and you perhaps question your beliefs, that is when you need to seek Him and seek His Face the most. 

As a young girl in the Church, I remember how we sang that song about the fig tree and how we would keep on believing and praising God even if it doesn't bear any fruit. I am in my midlife now and God uses those songs of my youth now to bring it to life and show me why I needed to learn how to sing them then when everything was rosy and all of life seemed filled with color and light and possibility. It is so important to know God and choose Him when we are young so that He can build our faith for the long haul. So it really can grow deep roots to anchor our souls. I am thankful that God took my hand back then and helped grow a steadfast spirit in me. Though my flesh may fail my spirit is strong and I only realized how strong while going through the difficult times in my life. 

So seeking His face in the difficult times may not look rosy and it may be filled with tears or anguish or doubt and fear even. But I know one thing: I will always always run into Him because not only is my home in His Word but His home is in my heart and it is less about what I do or how I act or feel or respond and more about Him and how He leads me to quiet waters where I can look up and know that I am loved. 

So when I hold my heart in my hands and close my eyes as an offering to Him, seeking His face in the moments I feel lost or broken or empty, He is faithful to bring me through it all to waters that will quench my thirsty soul and a place where I can rest and know: I am loved by the God who made the Universe and He knows my little name and has inscribed it in the palm of His hands. He pursues me relentlessly out of love and He uses the difficult seasons to bring honor to His Name through the witness of our faith in Him. 

So, dear Gracefilled Lillies, let your difficult times become your witness of the God who loves you through it, stands by you when the world fails you, provides for you and heals your broken pieces. Let the mosaic of all of that be your banner of truth and fly it high because His banner over you is LOVE. 

My encouragement to you today is to not put God in a box. Allow Him to speak to you any time He wants. To be open to those God moments. To look out for them and listen attentively.  Even note them in your journals when they happen. They happen for a reason. It might be in your journal time while sitting in church or at a bible journaling class. But guess what, most of the time it is when God catches you alone in life when you go about your business washing the dishes, pushing the shopping trolley, washing your hair in the shower. Like I said, some of my God moments was simply standing in front of my closet. Some of my God moments even happened when I was extremely sad, or depressed or angry or felt like giving up or just after I had cried out to Him. He just didn't allow me to give up. My husband frequently comments on this that he is astonished that I haven't given up on this or that yet and I can only attest that I also don't understand must be God in me showing me how to go the distance and keep on trusting Him, when I would just like to give up or run away. ;) 

God's power in us little frail humans can turn a coward like Gideon into a mighty worrier. It can turn a shepherd boy like David into a King. A stuttering murderer like Moses into leading a nation. His economy works differently than this world's. He can heal the blind with a little spit and dirt, raise the dead and bring little children back to life. He can give countless barren woman more children than the married and turn ashes into beauty. 

So my story isn't finished yet. As I continue to seek His face regarding my purpose here in this venture and countless others, I realize that it doesn't really matter what we do. It matters why we do it and for Whom. So when you sit down and work on your Bible journaling, forget about the product and the techniques and focus on God, the Word He is giving you at that moment and then study it as deep as you can for as long as you can and make it your own through your creative expression. Date it so you know when He spoke to you and what He said. Return to it often. 

Another one of my God moments was when I was in the hospital a couple years ago, feeling scared. I asked someone to pray for me and she didn't know what Scripture I was reading but confirmed actually through her words of encouragement to me, what God had already said to me at that moment. The main lesson was that God sees into our hearts and He knows if and when we are being sincere when we have a request or some kind of need. That sincerity is key. God saw my heart at that moment and He answered me. He knew instantly that the women who touched His robe in the crowd desperately needed His healing and He gave it to her. I can relate to her not just because I basically have a similar challenge, but because I know who to go to, to find my healing. Jesus is the gentle Healer and as the Michael Card song rings true: "He came to my town today". God can see were people cannot. He knows our true self better than we sometimes do. Allow Him to come to your "town" and bring healing there as you seek His Face. 

I didn't know what this post would be about, but I am glad now that I was obedient and sat down to write to you here today. It reminded me of a couple of things and I hope that it has encouraged your heart too. When you work on your journaling, remember what is important. Remember who you are doing all of that for and why. Journaling about God, or His Word, using a ton of product or kits or paper or whatever is all empty and void if there is no connection between you and Him. Prioritize that first and all the rest will be a happy expression of that meeting. 

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019

Journaling outside your Bible - Can it be done?

Dear Gracefilled Lillies,

Scriptures for this entry:

Psalm 34:10, 1 Chronicles 16:8; Col 5:23

Question of the day: How do you journal God's Word and pray at the same time without doing it in your Bible?

Yes, it is actually possible. I would like to offer you some options. 

For many many years, most Christians would carry notebooks or journals with them to Church and have a pen handy. They would take sermon notes. I did that too, but I also Micro Journaled in my Bible, making notes in the sideline, drawing little hearts, doodles and more to help me remember what I learned and also dating the Scriptures and underlining it. All of these habits are good learning habits. Take it from me, I'm a trained teacher and studied the Word from an early age. 

You don't need an expensive fancy journal Bible to be creatively journaling your faith and journaling about God's Word. A notebook is still a very acceptable place to do all of that in. 

Don't get swayed by popular media and industry. God's Word is all you need and your journal. Make your own books. Start in a normal exercise school book. They are very cheap and affordable and just as good for the process and even better actually. You can choose between A4, A5 and TN size (just trim the A5 down to a TN) and cover it with paper or paint a cover on it. Add your beautiful paperclips in it. Very soon you will have filled your books and not your Bible. You will be able to actually use your Bible, one Bible for a very very long time. 

I don't own a journal Bible and I don't think I will buy one probably. I just can't see myself spending that much on something that I will also probably never "color in" with products just because it was so expensive. I salvaged an old NIV that was falling apart and I use it for creative expression but also just for reading at times. It is in my studio while my study Bible is where I normally have my quiet times. It is a personal preference, but to me, it makes no real sense to fill a Bible with ton's of art products and try out techniques in it. That is what an art journal is for. I also can't see the point of just highlighting one verse and covering the rest with paint and products that make it difficult to read. 

Remember that reading the same section in the Word again and again over time, will always give you new insights. You can't cover it and just focus on one part. You will miss out on the richness and depth of the Word. Also, remember that the Word is alive! Allow God to speak to you through all the parts, not just the parts you like. That is a challenge to all of us to keep in mind. 

So, I'm writing you this post today to just make you think about where it is you are going with your "Creative Worship". Include God in it and ask Him to lead you in the direction He wants for you to take in His Word. 

I can witness that God had me ask many questions and think long and hard about what and how I was engaging with His Word. I will always have to answer to Him. So be careful with God's Word and be careful about who you allow to "teach" you, what they teach you and how they go about doing so. 

Never ever focus on the product or techniques but rather on how they are used to honor God and His Word and bring about His purposes in your life and the lives of others. 

If you really want to art journal, then get an art journal and do just that. You can use all the products to your heart's content. But if you study the Word, really study it. Don't just add stuff to it, for the sake of adding stuff. And also think about what it is that you are adding.  

Did you know that there is a scripture about not adding anything to God's Word or taking anything away from it and it comes with a stern warning? Click here to read the Scripture and ask God to speak to your heart. I'm doing the same. I want to make sure I am on the right track with what I'm doing. 

So let's honor God and His Word today with how we go about using it.  

This post is not about judging anyone or about criticizing any particular way or process. It is to place the focus firmly on God first, on honoring His Word the way He intended for us to use it and engage with it. 

If we as believers allow an industry to dictate how we study the Word and how we learn from it and engage with it, we might find ourselves on the wrong track very quickly. Be mindful of the fact that industry is profit focused and God is not. 

I also needed to ask myself serious questions. I am a believer first and therefor ministry focused; a teacher second so I'm people focused and I own a creative business to put food on my table, but God is my Source. I had to check my focus and my purpose with the Gracelilly Faith Art initiative and that is why I have probably not been so active with it as I would have liked. If I look back now, I feel God's Spirit want me to take note of some things happening around me in the "industry". Remember that God is not interested in the industry but rather in our characters. 

I still want to do more Dreambook workshops because I know what the process of keeping a visual prayer journal meant to my spiritual journey. But I don't have any desire to do the "Illustrated Faith" thing. I want to journal creatively and because I am a believer it will include my faith, God's Word and teaching and my art. I communicate that way naturally. Always have. No matter if I make a card or paint a painting, God's light and love will shine through my spirit onto the canvas or journal page in a creative way. 

The distinction God gave me recently was through the scripture about the seeds and the various places it falls. I'll do another post about this scripture another time. For now, I just want to mention that God made it clear to me that the seeds I sow are not the problem. He gives me my talents, thumbprint, unique and artistic way of communicating, the things I create using the gifts He has given, so He is the origin anyway and that's all good. It is actually about "WHERE" I sow those seeds and how. The ground I sow it in. 

So, make sure you sow in the right places if you want to make sure there will be a harvest. 

I hope you consider the journaling options above. They are much more affordable and sustainable. 

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Compassion, Psalm 145:8

Dear Gracefilled Lillies,

Sometimes you stumble across an old bookmark or a card with a scripture on it and God uses it to stir something new in your heart.

I created a free bookmark when I first opened my Gracelilly group on Facebook over a year ago. I printed it for myself and popped it in my Bible. This year in February, I came across it again. The scripture on it was Psalm 145:8. It is all about God's grace for us and expresses His character in stark contrast to our own. A scripture about Compassion.

My dad who is also my spiritual father, pointed out lately that He is so glad that God is not an old man with a wip standing behind you with a stern face waiting for you to mess up so He can punish you. Today I watched a little video Jospeh Prince shared on the Holy Communion and also a clip on His latest sermon series releasing soon and it is about winning the fight against the enemy. He starts out to say that the enemy's greatest achievement is to get the world to believe he doesn't exist. He is a sly "devil"...pun fully intended. He works on our minds so we believe he is not out there (while he actually is and targeting believers intensely). He wants us to doubt God too. If we doubt God and we doubt ourselves, we are limp and powerless. It is all however a smokescreen. We need to understand and know the Word and we need to speak it and pray it over our lives and protect our hearts and minds with it.

My fight against the enemy is real and I sometimes feel like I am losing the fight, but I know that God has won the battle for me. I may not be perfect and fail all the time, but as Joseph Prince pointed out in his latest video about he Holy Communion, the Israelites where just as terrified and scared while they were living through the first Passover. Joseph Prince explained so eloquently. What stuck with me was the visual that they might have wailed in agony and fear (just as the Egyptians probably did), but what protected them was the blood of the "Lamb" on the door posts. Today we may sometimes "wail" and fall apart over the challenges in our lives. Afterwards we may feel like our doubts and fears have really broken our relationship with God and that at some point He will get fed-up with our up-&-down faith.

But the good news is that in this Psalm we see God's character revealed to us. He is not a man. He doesn't function like us and I am so glad about that. He is loving and kind and so full of Grace...something that I focus on because of the meaning of my name. I want to live gracefilled and gracefully and pore grace into the lives of those He sends my way. Today He reminds me that it is so important to know my place in His heart and to know that it is never about my abilities, my power, how much I do or give or am perfect and perfectly follow through on everything. I probably wont. I am small and I realize how small in comparison to such a big and awesome God. There are no words to describe how I feel about this deep in my spirit. I can just say that it is really comforting to know that I don't have to be perfect for God's love to cover me and because of the sacrifice of His Son on the Cross, I can live in freedom without fear of judgement. I can live in the shadow of His wings, knowing that it covers all my iniquities and faults and mistakes and sin and everything I might feel like I am failing Him. 

You see, the enemy wants us to stand in shame and doubt and fear and that will destroy our faith. He wants to isolate us too. Isolate us from community.

As an introvert, that is not hard to accomplish. We tend to live disconnected to others in general. Social anxiety and the fear of failing others, or not fitting in or just not wanting to engage because of the emotional load of others, makes us shy and not engage when we actually need to. When the enemy sees a gap here, he will take it and isolate us even more with his lies. If you read here today, don't you believe his lies!

Jesus wants a full life for us all and living "connected" with others in harmony and piece, is important and I believe something He wants for all of us as His children.

Remember that God's compassion covers us always. Live under that compassion. Breathe it in and breathe it out. Let it give you wings to fly all the way to where He wants for you to go.

For those of you just discovering this blog and you haven't yet found us on Youtube, here is a little video we shared on the Ivytree Studio chanel there about this Scripture. 

About the art:

I created this little artwork together with some other little girls last year. I am working on a 
#Faithgirl collection and all them will form part of the full collection. 
As always this collection will have a devotional kit and it will be available in both English and Afrikaans as well. I will do Print&Play kits and physical kits for this collection. 

I am taking my time with it, because I want it to be really special. 
I will keep you posted here.

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'Till next time

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Dreambooking and what it's about

Dear Gracefilled Lillies,

Thanks for popping in. I have been really busy over at Ivytree Studio, so I haven't been able to really post a lot lately. Will be catching up on a couple of projects I have been working on thus far and posting here about them. I will try to keep the posts short and sweet. 

Hope you enjoy your stay while here in my little corner of the internet. ;) Leave me a comment or two and lets connect. 


So, are you interested in what exactly "Dreambooking" is?  Well, I have been doing it for nearly two decades and it has helped me so much in my faith journey and relationship with God but also as a Highly Sensitive and Creative person, it has kept me sane and emotionally healthy. I can really reccommend it. 

One of my many creative projects is the "GraceLilly Bible and Prayer Journaling" branch of Ivytree Studio.  I love God's Word and I love expressing it in creative ways. My Dreambooks are one such way. I am not so big on creating art IN my Bible but I do love to decorate parts of it at times. I am not big also on products and technique but more on journaling in a Travel Notebook or Journal about my journey with God or shall I rather say His journey with me.  

Something that is near to my heart is how God's Word is treated. It is not a art surface. It is meant to be studied and read and it is a "Place", a garden to sit still in and hear Him speak to your spirit. Being creative with it, should always be the last step. 


I want to make a difference in this world for my King and so I will be the voice in the desert calling:  Don't use God's Word as just another of your hobby experiments just because you are bored with cardmaking, scrapbooking, planner layouts, general journaling and whatever else tickles your creative fancy AND because the creative industries are now promoting their products and want you to get caught up in tons of art products and stuff that you actually don't really need.  Remember that God's Word is still God's Word and His purpose for it is to reach your heart and for it to live their. If you need to express it creatively to help you memorize and make it part of your life, go ahead. Just treat it with the respect it deserves. 

I also create devotional kits, because I am a teacher and creating content is what I do best and if I can create content that spreads the Word and encourage fellow believers, I will do it. But I want to be clear that this my ministry heart that makes me want to step forward and put something out into the world that honours God. I believe you can use what you have and still be creative. I believe that a little pretty paper, some glue and scissors and maybe some paint or pencils/pens and a journal is actually what you need. 

I use magazine cutouts form Christian magazines and I use the stash that I have.

My devotionals (and I have only created a couple of printables and two devotional kits) are my way of encouraging other women like me, to keep moving forward in their faith. 

I use to work in an A4 journal. Just a normal school exercise book is fine to use. As a teacher that was what I had available two decades ago, when I started on this Dreambook journey.  Keeping things simple and affordable is what will give you the most joy and freedom. Don't think that you need a ton of expensive journals or products to enjoy journaling about God's Word or to create your prayer journals.

This past year I have started using Travel Notebooks. I made my own cover (Midori) and I love making my own little insert Notebooks. I love that I can have several going all at the same time and do different things in them. My process is evolving and growing as I grow and I love that. The smaller version, means I am more mobile and can take it with me wherever I go. That is a real plus for your Faith journey and especially for your prayer journey. 

As creatives we tend to hop from one project to the next and work on many creative projects at once. Between work, play, rest and our time with God, things can get blurry. So, for me streamlining my personal process to the TN's has helped me be more organized and I have been able to be a lot more creative and purposeful in my journaling. 

When it comes to journaling, it is such a healthy habit, no matter what you journal about. Especially for Highly Sensitive Artistic types like myself. It keeps us grounded and focused on positive and healthy thoughts. It keeps us moving forward also in a productive way.

I can really suggest "Dreambooking" to you. 

Leave me a comment on this post if you are interested in knowing more.

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